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    sio_r32_gts

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    3 types of nissan 4 piston calipers

    Post by sio_r32_gts on Mon May 24, 2010 10:50 am

    Stole this from Tuner, very good information here:

    The are 3 types of nissan 4 piston calipers.


    1. 30mm iron
    2. 30mm aluminium
    3. 26mm aluminium
    each with their specific thickness rotor.

    Stock SE-R brakes:

    Piston area = Pi (r^2)
    Brake surface = 3.14 (22.5^2) x 2 = 3180.86
    Brake surface = 3180.86

    On Z32 brakes:

    Piston area = Pi (r^2)
    Brake surface = 3.14 (20.25^2) x 4 = 5153
    Brake surface = 5153

    So you have around 62% more braking power on the front than a stock SE-R, you also have more mechanical force with the bigger diameter rotors, as well as better resistance to get the heat up the brakes, since you got more material on the bigger and thicker rotor and a bigger caliper helping with the heat distribution.

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    B13 / B14 Z32 (300zx) Brake upgrade

    And this is the part list:

    Z32 calipers: (duh!)
    I highly recommend to get the ones from the 1990 N/A 300zx, as they fit better in our little cars, and they won’t need a massively thick rotor.

    U13 Altima (or G20) brake rotors:
    They have the same diameter as the Z32 rotor (280mm), its a little bit thinner though (22mm vs the 26mm of the N/A Z)
    (for those who want 4x114.3 all around use g20 rear hubs it bolts into your rear b13 spindle and this is a fact not speculation. Now you can have a P11 like me yaaaa! I think it should also work on the B14 as they share the same spindle-spline pattern.)

    U13 Altima master cylinder:
    It will be helpful, considering you have in one single wheel, the same amount of pistons you had in the whole car before lol

    And this is the heart of the project, nothing makes sense, and nothing will fit on your car, unless you have this:

    B15 Sentra Steering knuckle and hubs:
    Yes, this means your front wheels will be now 114x4. But the Z32 caliper and Altima rotors will fit, right in. No adapter plates, no custom job. But most of the aftermaket wheels have 100x4 and 114x4, as my enkeis.

    Optional parts:
    This depends on the wheels you are using, due to spoke design of my wheels, I had to run spacers now.

    Unfortunately, is not that easy, while bolting everything in, we found that due to the B15 knuckle, the rotor needs to be reduced in diameter 4 milimeters, or otherwise it will hit the caliper. So you have to take the rotors to a machine shop before bolting everything in.

    I think is a good bang for the buck conversion, considering the ridiculous price out there for 4 piston brake kits. I will post some pics of the final results right now.

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    P11 Brake Upgrade

    S14 calipers (30mm iron or aluminum, 26mm is also an option but then you need thinner discs).

    S14 discs (280 x 30 mm) and drill them to 4 x 114,3 and turn them to 276 mm, or atleast that's what I did. Or buy discs with this specs OEM.

    S14 pads (remove the wear indicator on the pad nearest to the wheel 'cause it can hit the wheelhub)

    Sunny N14 banjobolt (2x) (the N14 banjobolt is shorter from the factory. In fact, the N14 bolt is the exact length you need if you should cut the P11 bolt (minus 5mm) so go to the Nissan dealer and buy these! It's plug n play!


    P11 brakehoses (or Goodridge)

    4 new bolts + washers to mount the calipers (always a good thing to have fresh mounting hardware)

    Brake fluid (I did DOT5.1)

    It's all plug 'n play now!. Car on jackstands, remove wheel, remove 2 nuts on the rear of the caliper, remove bajobolt, let fluid leak into a pan or something, remove caliper+disc, place new disc, place pads into calipers, put caliper back on, fit new bajobolt and make sure there's no air in the system.

    Oops, I forgot 1 thing. You need to cut away the splash guard and grind/sand down a little bit (1mm perhaps) on the inside of the caliper cause there is a chance that the discs will scrape a tiny bit.

    trinidrift

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    Re: 3 types of nissan 4 piston calipers

    Post by trinidrift on Mon May 24, 2010 11:03 am

    gd 2 kno

    Superman

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    Re: 3 types of nissan 4 piston calipers

    Post by Superman on Mon May 24, 2010 11:22 am

    Nice, thanks! Smile

    sio_r32_gts

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    Re: 3 types of nissan 4 piston calipers

    Post by sio_r32_gts on Mon May 24, 2010 5:06 pm

    i just buy some gtr brakes and rotors, the studs on them real rust out, like of no return.....allyuh know of any place that sells 1.25 nissan studs to replace them?

    i do not want to take studs from my old brake set up that i selling nah

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    Re: 3 types of nissan 4 piston calipers

    Post by THE SYNDICATE on Mon May 24, 2010 8:49 pm

    werd!

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    Re: 3 types of nissan 4 piston calipers

    Post by sio_r32_gts on Tue May 25, 2010 9:17 am

    http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/233811-r33-gtr-vs-gts-brake-calipers.html


    Quote:
    Originally Posted by aardvark View Post
    how do i tell the difference between the r33 gtr calipers and the r33 gts calipers? correct me if i'm wrong, but the gtr uses a 324mm rotor, where the gts has a 300mm rotor.

    there are a couple of models to choose from


    R33 GT base 4lug

    R33 GT-S base + has a 4piston caliper

    R33 GT-S T same as above

    R33 GTS-T (Type-M) This is a large sumutomo caliper with a 310mm rotor

    R33 GT-R base same as above but never seen one like this

    R33 GT-R Vspec - Brembo

    but I might be wrong.

    trinidrift

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    Re: 3 types of nissan 4 piston calipers

    Post by trinidrift on Wed May 26, 2010 7:33 am

    u want nismo or nyting go do?

    Superman

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    Re: 3 types of nissan 4 piston calipers

    Post by Superman on Wed May 26, 2010 7:35 am

    Where can I get Skyline GT-R33 brake calipers?

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    Re: 3 types of nissan 4 piston calipers

    Post by Superman on Wed May 26, 2010 7:36 am

    Was just wondering and how much? (Don't mean to stray from the topic!)

    sio_r32_gts

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    Re: 3 types of nissan 4 piston calipers

    Post by sio_r32_gts on Wed May 26, 2010 11:23 am

    Superman wrote:Where can I get Skyline GT-R33 brake calipers?


    he have r33 gts type m---which is also r33 gtr basic 4 piston brakes, call him quick

    http://www.trinituner.com/v3/forums/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=313753

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    Re: 3 types of nissan 4 piston calipers

    Post by Superman on Wed May 26, 2010 11:39 am

    Cool,thanks!

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    Re: 3 types of nissan 4 piston calipers

    Post by Conrad on Wed Jun 02, 2010 3:03 pm

    Si, you can get studs easy boy and for cheap. HEHEHEEEE, watch yuh, yuh done start to get excited.

    If you're ever up North in Bamboo #2, go look for a scrap yard, can't remember the name it's on the 2nd road on your left, it would be on your right and has a BIG front "gate" with scraps of front cuts etc. Ask for Ras, cool fella, and explain what you're looking for.

    Anyways, walk with a lug nut and small sledge and put the lug nut on the stud of your choise (easy way to tell if it's the correct pitch), not all the way in but enough that it's got at least 5 6 threads in and smack that beetch with the sledge. They'll drop out one by one.



    Oh and R33 GTS-T brakes are more like BNR32 but don't carry the slightly bigger cross-drilled rotors. All R33 GTRs have Brembo.

    Anil

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    Re: 3 types of nissan 4 piston calipers

    Post by Anil on Fri Jun 04, 2010 2:18 pm

    i got 2 pairs of the R32 @ $1400 a set and a R33 for $1800

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    Re: 3 types of nissan 4 piston calipers

    Post by spoogy on Sun Jun 13, 2010 2:53 am

    ok I'm having a problem with my setup, I put the 30mm z32 calipers and rotors (milled 4mm off the O.D and redrilled to 4x100), and mounted them on y11 splindles on my b14 but when I tighten the wheel nuts up the rotors press against the control/cradle arm right at the edge of the ball joint.. I grinded down some but still touching, anyone know if this is normal and what the correct fix is?

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    Re: 3 types of nissan 4 piston calipers

    Post by THE SYNDICATE on Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:05 am

    ^^^i have no experience in this conversion,i would have been glad to share what i know. i plan to do this conversion on my b12 sentra in the near future and i'm a noobie to it!

    one question i have for u though,why u have to use another spindle and not ur stock? is it for the bolt pattern alone? cause if u have universal 4 hole rims the front will jus b a different pattern but ur rims will still work. small price to pay for such an upgrade IMO!

    how i look at it, get the caliper,the suitable rotor disc re-drill to 4x100,grind off ur splash guard, and a suitable off-set rim!this i speak of is using ur stock spindles.is it easy as that?

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